Showing posts with label Experimentation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Experimentation. Show all posts

Wednesday 4 January 2023

Effects of Dam Materials on Scheduling

 I once made a statement about the effects of various dam materials on scheduling. This was based on my understanding of the density of three common refractory materials used in kilnforming – ceramic shelves, vermiculite board and fibre board. I decided to test these statements.  This showed I was wrong in my assumptions.

I set up a test of the heat gain and loss of the three materials. This was done without any glass involved to eliminate the influence of the glass on the behaviour of the dams. The dam materials were laid on the kiln shelf with thermocouples between. These were connected to a data logger to record the temperatures.


Test Setup

 The thicknesses of the dams may be relevant. The vermiculite and fibre boards were 25mm thick. The ceramic dam material was 13mm thick.

The schedule used was a slightly modified one for 6mm:

  • 300°C/hr to 800°C for 10 minutes
  • Full to 482°C for 60 minutes
  • 83°C to 427, no soak
  • 150°C to 370°C, no soak
  • 400°C to 100°C, end

 

The data retrieved from the data recording is shown by the following graphs.


Temperature profile of the air, ceramic, fibre, and vermiculite during the firing.

Highlights:

  • The dam materials all perform similarly.
  • This graph shows the dams have significant differences from the air temperature – up to 190°C – during the first ramp of 300°C/hr. (in this case).
  • There is the curious fall in the dams’ temperatures during the anneal soak. This was replicated in additional tests. I do not currently know the reasons for this.
  • The dams remain cooler than the air temperature until midway during the second cool when (in this kiln) the natural cooling rate takes over.
  • From the second cool to the finish, the dams remain hotter than the air temperature.

 Some more information is given by looking at the temperature differentials (ΔT) between the materials and the air. This graph is to assist in investigating how significantly different the materials are.

This graph is initially confusing as positive numbers indicate the temperature of the first is cooler than the material it is compared with, and hotter when in negative numbers.

 

A= air; C=ceramic; F=fibre board; V=vermiculite

Temperature variations between air and dams

 As an assistance to relating the ΔT to the air temperature some relevant data points are given. The data points relate to the numbers running along the bottom of the graph.

 Data Point       Event

  • 1            Start of anneal soak.
  • 30          Start of 1st cool (482°C)
  • 45          Start of 2nd cool (427°C)
  • 65          Start of final cool (370°C)
  • 89          1st 55°C of final cool (315°C)
  • 306         100°C

 

At the data points:

  • At the start of anneal soak the ΔT between the dams is 16°C with the ceramic shelf temperature being 18°C hotter than the air.
  • At the end of the anneal soak of an hour, the air temperature is 20°C higher, although the ΔT between the dams has reduced to 12°C.
  • At the end of the 1st cool the ΔT between the dams has reduced to 9°C and the ΔT with the air is 3°C.
  • At approximately 450°C the air temperature becomes less than the dams.
  • At 370°C the hottest dams are approximately 17°C hotter than the air.  The ΔT between the dams is 10°C.

 More generally:

  • The air temperature tends to be between 17°C hotter and 17°C cooler than the ceramic dams during the anneal soak and cool.  The difference gradually decreases to around 8°C at about 120°C.
  • Ceramic and fibre dams loose heat after the annealing soak at similar rates – having a ΔT between 4°C and 1°C, with a peak difference of 9°C at the start of the second cool. This means the heat retention characteristics of ceramic strips and fibre board are very close.
  • Between the annealing soak and about 300°C the vermiculite is between 12°C and 9°C hotter than the same thickness of fibre.  Vermiculite both gains and loses heat more slowly than the ceramic or fibre dams do. This means that vermiculite is the most heat retentive of the three materials.
  • Vermiculite remains hotter than ceramic from the start of the second cool. This variance is up to 9°C and decreases to 3°C by 100°C.
  • Fibre board is cooler than ceramic dams until the final cool starts, when there is little variance.  At the start of the second cool there is about 15°C between the two.
  • Vermiculite remains cooler than fibre dams throughout the cooling process. This ranges from about 12°C at the start of the first cool to about 3°C at 100°C.


Since we cannot see more than the air temperature on our controllers it is useful to compare air and dam temperatures. The same data points apply as the graph comparing differences between materials.

 

Ceramic-Vermiculite; Ceramic-Fibre Board; Vermiculite-Fibre Board; Ceramic-Air Temperature
This graph shows the temperature differences throughout the cooling of various materials.

  • During the annealing soak, the air temperature is greater than the dam temperatures. The fibre and vermiculite boards remain at similar temperatures and the ceramic dam is the coolest.
  • The three dam materials even out with the air temperature at the start of the second cool.
  • Through the second and final cools, vermiculite dams remain hotter than the air temperature – between about 24°C at start of the final cool and 9°C at 100°C.
  • The ceramic and fibre dams are close in temperature difference to the air from the start of the final cool. Their ΔTs are 17°C at the start of the final cool and 6°C at 100°C.


Conclusions

  • Dams will have little effect during the heat up of open face dammed glass.  The slight difference will be at the interface of the glass and the dams where there will be a slight cooling effect on the glass. Therefore, a slightly longer top soak or a slightly higher top temperature may be useful.
  • The continued fall in the dams’ temperature during the anneal soak indicates that this soak should be extended to ensure heat is not being drained from the edges of the glass by the dams. There is the risk of creating unequal temperatures across the glass.
  • The ability of ceramic and fibre dams to absorb and dissipate heat more quickly indicates that they are better materials for dams than vermiculite board. The slightly better retention of heat at the annealing soak, indicates that ceramic is a good choice when annealing is critical.        
  • These tests were fired as for 6mm/0.25” glass and so show the greatest differences. Firing for thicker glass will use longer soaks and slower cool rates. These will allow the dams to perform more closely to the glass temperature during annealing and cool.

Based on these observations, I have come to some conclusions about the effect of dams on scheduling.

  • There is no significant effect caused by dams during the heat up, so scheduling of the heat up can be as for the thickness of the glass.
  • The lag in temperature rise of the dams indicates a slightly longer soak at the top temperature (with a minor risk of devitrification), or a higher temperature of, say 10°C, can be used.
  • The (strange) continued cooling of the dams during the annealing soak indicates that extending the soak time to that for a piece 6mm thicker than actual is advisable.
  • The cool rates can continue to be as for the actual thickness, as the dam temperatures follow the air temperature with little deviation below the end of the first cool.
  • Ceramic dams of 13mm/ 0.5” perform better than 25mm/1.0” vermiculite and fibre board. 
  • However, in further tests of 25mm/1.0” thick ceramic dams performed similarly to the same thickness of vermiculite. So, 25mm/1.0” fibre board the best when choosing between the three materials of the same thickness. But 25mm ceramic strips are not common, nor are they needed for strength or weight.
  • The performance of the three dam materials tested do not show enough difference in temperature variation to have significant affects on the annealing and cooling at times and rates appropriate to the thickness of the glass.
  • It is the thermal insulation properties of the dam material, rather than the density that has the greatest influence on performance as a dam material.

 

 

Saturday 17 April 2021

Effects of Dams on Scheduling

 I recently made a statement about the effects of various dam materials on the scheduling.  This was based on my understanding of the density of three common refractory materials used in kilnforming – ceramic shelves, vermiculite board and fibre board.  I decided to test these statements.  I found I was wrong.

I set up a test of the heat gain and loss of the three materials.  This was done without any glass involved to eliminate the influence of the glass on the behaviour of the dams.  The dam materials were laid on the kiln shelf with thermocouples between.  These were connected to a data logger to record the temperatures.

 

The schedule used was a slightly modified one for 6mm:

300°C/hr to 800°C for 10 minutes

Full to 482°C for 60 minutes

83°C to 427, no soak

150°C to 370°C, no soak

400°C to 100°C, end

 

The data retrieved from the data recording is shown by the following graphs.

 


Highlights:

·        The dam materials all perform similarly. 

·        This graph shows the dams have significant differences from the air temperature – up to 190°C – during the first ramp of 300°C/hr. (in this case). 

·        There is the curious fall in the dams’ temperatures during the anneal soak.  This was replicated in additional tests.  I do not currently know the reasons for this.

·        The dams remain cooler than the air temperature until midway during the second cool when (in this kiln) the natural cooling rate takes over.

·        From the second cool to the finish, the dams remain hotter than the air temperature.

 

Some more information is given by looking at the temperature differentials (ΔT) between the materials and the air.  This graph is to assist in investigating how significantly different the materials are. 

This graph is initially confusing as positive numbers indicate the temperature is cooler than the material being compared and hotter with negative numbers.

 


As an assistance to relating the ΔT to the air temperature some relevant data points are given.  The data points relate to the numbers running along the bottom of the graph.

Data Point   Event

    1                Start of anneal soak.

    30              Start of 1st cool (482°C)

    45              Start of 2nd cool (427°C)

    65              Start of final cool (370°C)

    89              1st 55°C of final cool (315°C)

    306             100°C

 

At the data points:

·        At the start of anneal soak the ΔT between the dams is 16°C with the ceramic shelf temperature being 18°C hotter than the air.

·        At the end of the anneal soak of an hour, the air temperature is 20°C higher, although the ΔT between the dams has reduced to 12°C.

·        At the end of the 1st cool the ΔT between the dams has reduced to 9°C and the ΔT with the air is 3°C.

·        At approximately 450°C the air temperature becomes less than the dams. 

·        At 370°C the hottest dams are approximately 17°C hotter than the air.  The ΔT between the dams is 10°C.

 

More generally:

·        The air temperature tends to be between 17°C hotter and 17°C cooler than the ceramic dams during the anneal soak and cool.  The difference gradually decreases to around 8°C at about 120°C.

·        Ceramic and fibre dams loose heat after annealing at similar rates – generally having a ΔT between 4°C and 1°C, with a peak difference of 9°C at the start of the second cool. This means the heat retention characteristics of ceramic strips and fibre board are very close.

·        Between the annealing soak and about 300°C the vermiculite is between 12°C and 9°C hotter than the same thickness of fibre.  Vermiculite both gains and loses heat more slowly than the ceramic or fibre dams do.  This means that vermiculite is the most heat retentive of the three materials.


Conclusions

·        Dams will have little effect during the heat up of open face dammed glass.  The slight difference will be at the interface of the glass and the dams where there will be a slight cooling effect on the glass.  Therefore, a slightly longer top soak or a slightly higher top temperature may be useful.

·        The continued fall in the dams’ temperature during the anneal soak indicates that this soak should be extended to ensure heat is not being drained from the glass by the dams to give unequal temperatures across the glass with the risk of inadequate annealing.  I suggest the soak should be extended to that for glass of 6mm thicker than actual to account for this.

·        The ability of ceramic and fibre dams to absorb and dissipate heat more quickly indicates that they are better materials for dams than vermiculite board.  The slightly better retention of heat at the annealing soak, indicates that ceramic is a good choice when annealing is critical.


Scheduling Effects 

Based on these observations, I have come to some conclusions about the effect of dams on scheduling.

·        There is no significant effect caused by dams during the heat up, so scheduling of the heat up can be as for the thickness of the glass.

·        The lag in temperature rise by the dams indicates a slightly longer soak at the top temperature (with a minor risk of devitrification), or a higher temperature of, say 10°C can be used.

·        The (strange) continued cooling of the dams during the annealing soak indicates that extending the soak time to that for a piece 6mm thicker than actual is advisable.

·        The cool rates can continue to be as for the actual thickness, as the dam temperatures follow the air temperature with little deviation below the end of the first cool. 

·        Ceramic dams perform the best of the three tested materials.

 

Wednesday 6 November 2019

Limits to the “Low and Slow” Concept



I frequently advocate using slow rates of advance and low temperatures to achieve the results desired with a minimum of marking in forming, or a minimum of firing difficulties during the fusing part of kilnforming. 

But there are limits to this both in terms of physics and practicality.  There are temperatures below which no amount of slow heat input will affect the brittle nature of the glass, for example.  If your temperature is below the strain point of the glass, virtually no change will occur even with very long soaks.  The graph below shows the slumping range is from the annealing point (glass transition temperature) to about 180C above the annealing temperature.  After that temperature the glass is prone to devitrification (the beginnings of crystallisation). 

This shows the the slumping range of a specialised glass rather than the soda lime glass that kilnformers normally use.


In this graph, the glass has an annealing temperature of about 600C, which is higher than that for float glass and much higher than for kilnforming glasses.  The glass transition temperature range for existing fusing compatible glasses is around 510C (+/- ~10C).  Float glass has a higher annealing point of around 540C (+/- ~ 10C). Following the research behind this graph, stable slumping temperatures would be in the range of about 510C to 690C (+/- 10C).  

It is important to be aware that the annealing point is determined mathematically as the glass transition point.  This is the annealing point at which temperature the glass can be most quickly annealed. The practical research conducted by Bullseye has shown that a temperature equalisation soak in the lower part of the annealing range is a good solution to the the practicality of balancing adequate annealing with the use of the kiln time.  The annealing point temperature and that which you use to equalise the temperature within the glass may be quite different.

Even where it is possible to achieve an effect at a low temperature, it can take too long to be practical.  For example, I can bend float glass at 590°C in 20 minutes into a 1/3 cylinder.  I could also bend it at 550°C (just 10°C above the annealing point), but it would take more than 12 hours. This is not practical.

In addition to practicality, there is the physical limitation.  If you slump below the glass transition point, you will be unable to properly anneal the glass and therefore produce an unstable item.  It will contain stress from this inadequate annealing leading to an increased fragility.

The balance required between the rate of advance and top temperature means that you will need to do your own experiments to find where the practical limits to using heat work are for you. The more patient you are, the lower temperature you can use.


More detailed information is available in the e-book: Low Temperature Kilnforming.