Showing posts with label Frit stretching. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Frit stretching. Show all posts

Wednesday, 29 July 2026

Frit Stretch Crack




Description

A frit stretch in the flattening developed two internal cracks at 4:00 and 8:00 going through colours (but not felt on top or bottom). The flattening was to reduce the centre thickness from about 8m, to be nearer the 6mm of the edges. It was fired in a side element kiln. The maker does not know if there is stress beyond the cracks.

The question is about firing again to conceal the cracks.

Schedules first.

Generally side fired kilns need to have up ramp rates for at least one thickness greater than top fired kilns to counteract uneven heating. The heat input to glass with side fired kilns is directly to the edge of the glass and so more uneven than in top fired kilns. Slower rates for the up ramps are needed than for top firied kilns. Down ramps are not affected in the same way, so down rates can be the same as for top fired kilns.

1st firing (before the break):

277°C/500°F – 594°C/1100°F, 0’ [A reasonable first ramp for small pieces]

28°C/50°F – 691°C/1275°F, 60’ [At 691°C the glass has begun to stick together, so a lower temperature of 677°C/1250°F would continue to allow air out as the glass slumped.]

9999 – 830°C/1525°F, 60’ [This speed allowed only about 15 minutes to get to top temperature. The impossibility of the glass equalising the top to bottom temperature is alleviated by the one hour soak. The hotter top layers of the stretch begin to move toward the centre before the bottom layers. This ASAP 3rd segment will reduce the time for the flow to the centre. Peeking at intervals will show when, or if, the centre has been filled by the flow.]

9999 – 510°C/950°F, 120’ [It is known a frit stretch will have a variation in thickness from about 9mm to 6mm. This would indicate firing for at least 1.5 times the thickest part, approximately 12mm, which is what was done]

28°C/50°F – 427°C/800°F, 0’ [A two hour soak indicates annealing for 12mm, so the cooling needs to be for that too. 55°C/100°F to 427°C/800°F is adequate. And can be followed by 99°C/180°F to 371°C/700°F. The final cool rate could be as fast as 330°C/600°F to room temperature.]

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If there are no more than 5 segments available in the kiln controller, use the slower first rate to 371°C/700°F. If the natural cooling rate of your kiln is more than the slow first rate at that temperature, reduce the target temperature further.

I rarely fire faster than 330C/600F to top temperature. Faster does not allow all the heat to reach the bottom and so meld the glass together. There are two blog posts that help to explain the difficulties with AFAP ramps up in temperature. This difference increases with thickness. The effects on glass temperaturesand the heat control problems


2nd firing:

111°C/200°F – 594°C/1100°F, 0’ [because of the cracks, I suggest 55°C/100°F is fast enough as the first ramp rate. But it does not need to go to more than 500°C/932°F to be sure of being above the strain point.]

125°C/225°F – 663°C/1225°F, 30’. [I would maintain this rate to top temperature, as any bubbles are already trapped]

9999 – 830°C/1525°F, 60’ [I would use this top temperature and time but at the slower rate of the previous ramp]

9999 – 510°C/950°F, 120’ [I think this is an appropriate anneal soak time]

28°C/50°F – 427°C/800°F, 0’ [The cool rate should be as suggested for the first firing. The elimination of the bubble squeeze segment allows a final segment rate of 100°C/180°F – 371°C/700°F or lower if required – for a controller with fewer segments.]



You need to put the heat into the glass slowly when trying to flatten or thin a piece. With a slow rate it may be possible to reduce the one hour soak at top temperature and still get the same thinning result.

The break goes through colours so it is not a compatibility problem. That moves attention to annealing soak and cooling. The schedules do not set off any alarms for me as causing the crack (although I would have been more cautious). It is clearly highly stressed with the crack essentially going across the whole piece except the edges. It will continue to be delicate because of the stress unless re-fired carefully.

Testing for stress

A stress test is a means of determining how sound the fired piece is. It can also be used on smaller pieces to determine what stresses may be stored in the glass and to determine if the glasses are compatible.

This tests for both stress and compatibility.  These give notes on the use of the polarised filters.

Strain Point

The strain point is the temperature above which the viscosity of the glass is low enough that it is rarely subject to thermal shock, because it is no longer brittle. That temperature is determined by the glass’s viscosity, which is achieved at different temperatures for different glass, such as float glass.

Repair

I suggest placing a dam around the piece before firing for a repair. This can be thick fibre paper backed with kiln furniture, or some other circular material to confine the piece, in case the crack develops into a full break during the firing.

The Ramp Rate I suggested of 55°C/100°F per hour is because of the existing cracks. This is to avoid inducing additional stress to the piece during the temperature increase. Once the strain point is passed, the rate can be increased. I suggest the rest of the firing should be as for 12mm / 0.5". The anneal soak and cooling are given in the Bullseye document Annealing Thick Slabs, Celsius and  Fahrenheit,  which is applicable to "CoE 96" glasses, except for the anneal soak temperature.

Further investigation

I suggest two e-books which will be very helpful in your exploration of kilnforming:

Kilnforming Principles and Practices, by Stephen Richard

Firing Schedules for Kilnformed Glass, by Bob Leatherbarrow

Both are available from Bullseye or the authors.

Wednesday, 20 September 2023

Flows

 

Credit: Marcy Berman

I have not had much success [with] the Patty Gray mould despite using the recommended firing schedule. I always have holes or bubbles and the edges are not smooth.

The schedule for Oceanside was:

  • 111°C/200°F per hour to 537°C1000°F for 15 minutes
  • 167°C/300°F per hour to 662°C/1225°F for 30 minutes
  • 195°C/350°F per hour to 798°C/1470°F for 20 minutes
  • 9999 to 510°C/950°F for 120 minutes
  • 55°C/100°F per hour to 371°C/700°F off


 Your picture shows a bottom view of the piece - made of cullet pieces - as fired. Two large bubbles show to have been created from the bottom rising through the glass to the top.

 Although a long bubble squeeze will not prevent this, it will help to reduce the number of bubbles, and especially large ones. Because of the number of pieces and the thickness of the glass put into the mould, a longer bubble squeeze would benefit this piece.

 The bubble squeeze can be as you have done this – at a single temperature – with a soak. In this case, I would have used 60 to 90 minutes as the soak.

 The other bubble squeeze method is to start the squeeze about 55C/100F below the top of the bubble squeeze. Most people use a soak of about 30 minutes there. They then proceed at a rate of between 30C/55F and 55C/100F to the top of the bubble squeeze and soak there for another 30 minutes. The rates and soak times will vary according to the thickness or complexity of the piece.

 I dispense with the soak at the beginning of the bubble squeeze on the grounds that at 610/1130F so little movement will be created that it is a waste of time. I would prefer to have a slower ramp rate to the top temperature and a longer soak there. I know the glass will be moving at those temperatures. Many people find the soak at the beginning of the bubble squeeze successful.

 The schedule to the top of the fuse is faster than the rest of the schedule. When I want a piece to flow, and especially, to fill gaps, I slow the rate. In this case a rate of between 100C/180F and 167C/300F would be slow enough to allow the glass to flow to fill gaps.

 I want to ensure the glass has enough time when it is flowing most freely at the top temperature to level out. This requires scheduling a longer soak at the top and observing how well the glass is levelling out. If more time is required you can add it on the “run,” and advance to the next segment when the surface is as wanted. Read up in your kiln manual how to do both these things.

 Yes, the rate is one which will enable devitrification to form on flat glass. The soak at top temperature is even more likely to promote it. However, as the glass is flowing, less devitrification has an opportunity to form. The crystallisation – which is what devitrification is - of the glass takes time to form. The movement of the glass surface is sufficient to reduce the formation of those crystals. It is of course likely there will be some devitrification, but not as much as the slow rates and long soaks would lead you to think. 

 But for these flows there always is the possibility of devitrification. You have to plan a method of removing it. Unless the surface is very flat, grinding the top is not a fast way to remove it. Sandblasting is a quick way to remove devitrification. Another way is to sift a thin layer of clear glass powder over the surface. This is an increasingly popular way to deal with devitrification for those without access to sandblasting facilities. When fired again, the powder melts and forms a new shining surface. The piece will need to be fired fire again whether sandblasted or covered in glass powder.

The summary for flows:

  • Slow down to top temperature.
  • Give sufficient time there to get the flow needed.
  • Observe the progress as you near the top temperature.
  • Extend the soak or advance to the next segment when the surface is smooth.
  • Anneal soak for the calculated thickness.
  • Use a three-stage cool – as outlined in the Bullseye chart for annealing thick slabs - to ensure no temporary contraction stresses are created.
  • Accept there will be devitrification.