Circles – Some Methods of Scoring and Breaking Out

 Scoring the circle

Setting out the centre point and radius of the circle

Set up a centre point. You can do it by estimating. But it is more accurate to measure a centre point that is at least 1cm from the edges. Use that crossing point to measure out the radius of the circle.

 

Setting out the circle measurements

Place the pivot point of the circle cutter on the cross hairs. Lock it into place.

 

Locking the pivot into place on the cross hairs

Adjust the cutting wheel along the length of the circle cutter bar to the marked radius. The measure marks on the bar are not always accurate and anyway wear away quickly.

 

Adjusting the scoring wheel to the correct length

 

Tightening the set screw at the top of the turret

Tighten the set screw.

 

Add a touch of oil to show the score line. Make a test circle by pushing the bar around with no pressure. This shows up any obstructions around the end of the bar. 

Preparing to test the sweep of the cutter arm

Score in an anti-clockwise direction. This avoids accidental loosening of the set screw if it is under the button or handle. 

 

Start with the scoring head under the arm with which you are securing the centre pivot. This allows you to do the whole score in one motion. The pressure you use should be no more than in your normal scoring.

 

Oil trace of the score can be seen in the upper left quadrant

 

Running the score 

Running the score is a glazier’s term to indicate the way in which a scored line gradually separates under gently applied breaking pressure. This can be seen when gently applying pressure with cut running pliers. The score line is made progressively visible by the gradual separation of the glass. This results from the light passing through in a different way than when it is not separated from top to bottom.

 

The glazier’s method to get a clean break of a circle is to score on one side with a trace of oil. Then turn the glass over and press with your thumbs on the score line. Running the score from the back requires a little skill and a certain amount of courage or determination.

The object is to bend the glass just enough to crack it along the score without breaking it anywhere else. The best surface is a short pile carpet square, a rubber mat or a single layer of towel or an unfolded newspaper. These provide a surface with a little “give” to allow the glass to deform.

But if you have too soft a surface, it is easy to break through the circle. A too soft surface is given by a household carpet, several layers of towel, or any other surface with a lot of “give” to it.

You may need both thumbs to start the run depending on the pressure you can exert. Try one thumb first. If that is not enough use both thumbs.

 

At the start of the second pressure point

If you place your thumb opposite a corner, you have greater leverage to start the run of the score. This leverage makes the running of the score easier as less pressure is required. You will hear a loud click at the opening of the first part of the score. 

Score has been run completely around the circle

Continue around the circle by pressing at the end of the opened score, until the whole score has been run. You may hear quiet clicks as the score opens. Other times there will be no sound, but you will see the score run away from the pressure point.

Once you have run the score from the back, turn the glass over to have the scored surface up. This makes it ready for the relief scores. It is much more successful if all the scores – circle and relief - are made from the same side. Unless you are scoring float or other glass that is smooth on both sides, this flipping back will be the easiest anyway.

 

Make the relief scores on the front.. Sometimes only one relief score is required to release the circle from the surrounding glass.

 

Another method is to cut the corners off so that you have an octagon around the circle. This gives you the opportunity to run the score from the top with breaking pliers. Ease the score open progressively around the circle.

Opening the score with pliers

This method is easiest for opalescent glass where you cannot see through to the score. By opening the score from the top, you do not have to estimate where the score line is. You can see the oil trace indicating where the score is and where to place your breaking pliers. 

You should start at a place where there is only a centimetre or two between the edge of the glass and the score. This may mean that you have to move around the broader areas of the rim so that the score runs both back to the first opened score and forward. It is in effect, opening a new score four times. But with gentle persuasion the scores will run toward one another. Do not use heavy pressure in griping the pliers, or in bending the glass. Gradually increase the bending pressure until you hear the click of the glass separating.

These two methods of running the score give the cleanest break-out of circles.

  

Relief scores

There are multiple ways to create the relief scores.

Perpendicular

Score by drawing the cutter from the circle out to the narrow edge, leaving a small gap between the opened score of the circle and the start of the score.

 

You can also score a longer line to the corner. Again, leave a space between the circle and start of the relief score.

 

Tangents

 A third way is to score tangents from the edge to the opened score of the circle. 

Tangent scored from both sides of the circle

Tangent broken from both sides of the circle

Alternatively, score a first tangent and run the score

Further tangents scored and broken away

All the tangents run and broken away 

This reduces the risk of breaking through the centre of the circle. But it does leave little nubs of glass at the point of each tangential score. And for that reason alone, is the least satisfactory of the methods of breaking out circles.    

In each of these methods of running a relief score, you need to tap under the relief score to run it to the edge of the circle. Normally, the quarters or other fractions will drop out one by one. Occasionally the rim will drop away after the scores of the first two quarters are run.

 

Breaking out without running circle first

There are at least two ways to cut a circle without running the circle score first.

The first is to cut the corners off the glass to create an octagon, but do not run the score.

First corner scored and removed

 

The four corners removed

Starting to run the circle with breaking pliers

Then use breaking pliers to run the scored circle. Once the score is run, make a single or multiple relief scores, and carefully run it. the circle can then be removed from the octagonal rim. This provides a clean cut.

 

corners and rim removed 

It does not risk breaking through the scored circle to the interior when tapping the relief score.

Many people run scores at a tangent to the circle without having opened the score of the circle. These are then run, in turn, to and along the edge of the scored circle.

They can then be broken off in turn, if they don’t simply fall off when they all are run.

 

tangent removal 

Finally, some people tap under the scored circle to run the score, as in the first of the tangent removal methods. This leaves shells – or ledges – on the glass circle. These must be removed by grozing or grinding. Grinding leaves a rough surface which takes copper foil tape less well than clean cuts. It also increases the possibility of devitrification when fusing.

Tapping leads to shells as in the centre left of this picture

The least satisfactory method of running the score of a circle is to tap under the score before breaking the circle out.

 

In conclusion, running the scored circle first and without tapping will provide you with the cleanest cut circle. This will be so however your make your relief scores. But, making relief scores before running the circle score risks breaking through the circle.

Finally, it should be noted that cutting out larger circles is easier than cutting small ones. Better, cleaner results are obtained because the curves are less tight.

 

Making Circles from Fused Squares

Dennis Brady has done a lot of work on predicting the size of circles resulting from stacking squares of glass and taking them to full fuse for enough time to allow flattening of the stacks.  This may be up to half an hour at 815°C for Bullseye.  Some observation will be required.

Stacks of 12mm/ 0.5" squares arranged at 45° to each other and taken to a full fuse:

• 1 layer should produce a 10mm/ 0.375" circle
• 2 layers should produce a 12mm/0.5" circle
• 3 layers should produce a 16mm/0.6" circle
• 4 layers should produce a 18mm/0.7" circle

 Stacks of 19mm/0.75" squares arranged at 45° to each other and taken to a full fuse:

• 1 and 2 layers will not fully round
• 3 layers should produce a 28mm/1.1" circle

 Stacks of 25mm/1" squares arranged at 45° to each other and taken to a full fuse:

• 4 layers should produce a 40mm/1.6" circle
• 5 layers should produce a 45mm/1.75" circle
• 6 layers should produce a 50mm/2" circle

 Stacks of 32mm/1.26" squares arranged at 45° to each other and taken to a full fuse:

• 4 layers should produce a 48mm/1.9" circle
• 5 layers should produce a 52mm/2" circle
• 6 layers should produce a 58mm/2.3" circle

 Stacks of 37mm/1.5" squares arranged at 45° to each other and taken to a full fuse:

• 4 layers should produce a 40mm/1.6" circle
• 5 layers should produce a 45mm/1.8" circle
• 6 layers should produce a 50mm/2" circle

 Stacks of 50mm/2" squares arranged at 45° to each other and taken to a full fuse

• 4 layers should produce a 75mm/3" circle
• 5 layers should produce a 85mm/3.3" circle
• 6 layers should produce a 95mm/3.75" circle
• 7 layers should produce a 102mm/4" circle
• 8 layers should produce a 105mm/4.125" circle

 Based on work done by Dennis Brady

I had a few queries about this regular progression and wondered if it applied to opalescent as well as transparent glass. I set up a few tests in my kiln. I fired them at 400C to 815C for 10 minutes.

I got the following results. 

You can see that the opalescents require more heat work than the transparent. If you are making circles with both transparent and opalescent you will need more time at the top temperature - perhaps 30 to 45 minutes.  This results from the greater viscosity of the opalescent colours.

I also tried making ovals from rectangular pieces oriented at about 25 degrees to each other. You can see they were not successful with a 10 minute soak.  

Measuring for Circle Cutting

Often there is uncertainty about which way the cutting head should be placed on the bar of the circle cutter to get the right diameter.  And the distance markings on the arm often get worn away.

It is for these two reasons that I have given up trying to get the right diameter circle from the measurement markings on the arm of the circle cutter.  Instead I measure and mark out the centre point and the radius of the circle directly onto the glass.  Only a few tools and supplies are needed.

Glass, measuring stick, marker pen, oil and circle cutter are all that are needed to measure the circle

First you need to decide on the centre point, leaving at least 2cm at the edge of the piece the circle is being cut from to allow a clean circle to be broken out.

The four black does are for measuring from the edge to the axis

Once you have done that, mark an axis at right angles at the centre point.

This shows the axis established and the radius marked out on the left.

Measure the radius from centre line , mark that on the line. 

Place suction cup at the centre of the axis. In the case of the cutter I use there are four markings to assist in the centering of cutter.

Move the cutting head along the arm until the wheel sets right on the radius mark.  I find that getting low helps a great deal in seeing the placement of the wheel.

Tighten the locking nut.

I put a drop of cutting oil on the wheel, so that in a preliminary run, I can both see where the scoring line will be and be sure everything is far enough away that the arm does not hit something on the way around.

Score the circle, making sure your fingers are only on the knob. If your fingers slip down, they can loosen the locking nut.  Some people score in an anti-clockwise direction to ensure they do not loosen the locking nut.  An anti-clockwise motion means that if your fingers do touch the nut, it will be tightened rather than loosened.

This photo shows the circle scored and to show the spacing between the edge of the glass and the score line.

Once you have set the cutting head on the arm of the cutter, you can cut as many circles as you wish of the same size without needing to do further measurements.
 

Further information on breaking out the circle is given in this blog post and a more comprehensive guide to measuring and placing all sorts of sizes is given in  Drilling Glass, guide no. 7.

Leading Small Circles

Putting came around small circles such as lenses and small bullions often leaves an irregular curve. There is a way to avoid this.

Use oval or round came to reduce the kinking of the leaves of the came. As there is less material at the edges of the leaves of oval came, there is less kinking than on flat came, where the thickness of the leaves is constant.

Begin to form the lead round the circle, about half way. Then take the circle out of the came and cut, at a right angle to the length of the lead, at an angle from top to bottom. The degree of the angle is not important at this stage, only that you can repeat the angle – so it must be fairly shallow and natural for you.

Put the circle back into the came and continue to form the came round it until you meet the angled cut at the beginning. Again at right angles to the length of the came, cut a repeat of the angle.

Then fold this end toward the other end. Push the two angled ends together. If they slip up and down from each other, the came is too long. Open the came and cut a sliver off.

Try again until they meet with very little “slippage”.

Then the piece is ready to put into the panel. Place the join at a lead joint so you don't have an additional solder spot.

This technique can be used for small ovals too.

Dog Boning Causes

I fired a one-layer piece of glass and it shrank. What did I do wrong?

Cause

This result relates to the thickness that glass, under kiln forming circumstances achieves.  The combination of gravity and viscosity lead to this effect.  As the glass becomes less viscous (more runny), the surface tension is greater than gravity and so it becomes thicker at the edges.  This additional glass is supplied from the edges and to some extent from the interior. The glass in the middle becomes thinner, allowing in certain circumstances bubbles or holes to appear.

This illustration from Fusedglass.org shows the effects of gravity, which is related to mass, and viscosity.  The lack of mass means the surface tension allows the glass to draw up to be come thicker, forming the classic dog boning appearance.

Prevention

Knowing why this occurs allows you to take come precautions, when firing single layer pieces, to help prevent the shrinkage, often known as dog boning.

Fire larger

You can cut the glass larger than the final piece will be.  After firing, you cut it down to the size you want.  You may have to do a bit of cold working to get a rounded edge to the glass before any further processing.

Fire lower  

You can fire at a lower temperature for a longer time.  You will need to observe to determine when the glass begins to shrink. Either stop the temperature rise and soak there for a time, or reduce the temperature a little and soak for as long as needed to get the surface texture wanted.

Fire oval or circular pieces.  

With these shapes the shrinking is not so obvious, as it occurs all the way around.  With rectangular pieces, as the glass shrinks, the corners become thick more quickly and so do not shrink as much, giving that dog bone appearance.  Rounded pieces become thicker all the way around more evenly and the shrinkage is not so obvious.  However, you still get thinning in the interior which can lead to holes or bubbles, so observation is still necessary to prevent excessive thinning and bubble formation.

Fire thicker

The real prevention is to fire two layer pieces as that is the thickness at which viscosity, surface tension and gravity are in balance.  So the glass does not change size at kiln forming temperatures.

Cold work

Alternatively, you can cold work the edges back to straight parallel edges.  This can be done by hand grinding or by machine.

Further information is available in the e-book: Low Temperature Kilnforming.

Assembly of Circles and Irregular Shapes.

Leading

Circles and ovals as well as irregular shapes significant support as leading often involves sideways pressures to fit the lead to the pieces of glass. Thus there are two main methods of support for the perimeter of the panel.

You can cut supporting pieces of glass to place around the perimeter. These need to be cut to the outside of the perimeter cut line. These supports must be in at least two or more pieces to enable the came to be put in place progressively. You then assemble the perimeter lead into it and continue to lead up as normal. The perimeter support can also be made from thin plywood or similar materials. This can be useful if the shape is to be repeated.

A simple means of supporting irregular shapes while leading is to place a number of nails around the inside edge of the cut line. There need to be enough to support each piece of glass with at least two nails. So you may need to add more nails to the initial set up. Build the panel without the perimeter leads. When the interior is assembled, put the perimeter came around the panel. Ensure the fully leaded panel fits within the dimensions of the opening. Then solder as normal.

Copper foil

The above methods can be used, but are often a bit heavy duty for copper foil processes. Instead of glass, timber or nails you can use more easily cut materials. Such things as stiff double walled cardboard, foam board etc., are suitable for light duty. You can cut the complete shape from these materials, but only good if no pressure is used in fitting the pieces.

If you are likely to repeat the shape and size, you can use plywood or similar materials. Build inside the shape and remove it when the whole is soldered on the first side.

Cutting Small Diameter Circles

It is possible to cut regular, small diameter circles without buying a lens cutter. It can be done with the assistance of a Lazy Susan or cake decorating turntable.

Draw the circle of appropriate diameter on the turntable with a compass. Place the glass on top of the turntable, and position your cutter above the drawn circle. Press on the cutter with one hand and rotate the turntable with the glass on it, with the other.

Steady your hand with the cutter by keeping your elbow tight against your side. This enables you to make a very good, if not perfect, circle without buying an expensive small circle cutter.

If the glass is too dark or opalescent to see the line, make a template and put it onto the glass. Cut beside the template or use the template to mark the glass. Then place the marked glass on to the turntable and cut as with transparent glass.

You will not be able to run the score by turning the glass upside down and pressing as you can with larger circles. You will need to make a number of relieving cuts to the tangent of the circle and break them away one by one. Yes, this does leave a rough edge at various places around the circle, so grozing or grinding will be necessary.

Bending Wide Cames

The way to bend larger leads such as flat outside leads around pieces of tracery or other curved shapes in window panels is to lay the lead upon the bench, and use a curved, preferably wooden, lathekin.

Progressively manipulate the lead into the curve. Hold the lead steady by keeping your fingers spread on the top and back of lead and manipulate the curve between your extended fingers. Gently push the curved lathekin along the heart of the lead with small, smooth, circular strokes. Smooth the lead flanges by pressing down on the flanges on the inside of the curve as you go. If you try to do it too quickly the lead will probably buckle.

Frequently turn the lead over, applying the process to both sides.

If the flange crimps or buckles, put smooth jawed pliers inside the lead and squash the flange flat. The pliers can be used to flatten any kinks that develop in the lead.

The key is to handle the lead gently and in stages, gently flattening the complete lead and not flattening completely one spot before moving on to the next.

The advantage of round over flat in this circumstance is that round came of the same size can be bent into smaller curves that the flat came of the same width.

The technique for finishing a curve around a single piece of glass can be seen in the tip “Leading Small Circles”

Positioning the Circle Cutter.

If you have a suction cup on the circle cutter, it will be easier to hold in place. But a three legged circle cutter is possible to keep in place too.

In both cases, one hand holds down the centre and the other operates the cutter. Make a test circle with no pressure to ensure before you start that the cutting bar will not bump into anything else on the bench. This also ensures that you have the circle to be cut placed appropriately on the glass.

To make the score start with the bar under your supporting arm and swing around to the other side of your arm until you hear the click or scratch indicating that you have come back to the start.

Cutting Circles from Opalescent Glass

Score as normal.

Be careful about putting too much pressure when scorning as, in general, opalescent glass does not make as much sound when being scored as transparent glasses do.

The difficulty with opalescent glass is seeing where the score is when you turn the glass over.

If you are using a piece of glass not much larger than the circle you are cutting, you can place the fingers of your hand over the score line and your thumb on the back as you lift the glass to turn it over. This gives you the location to begin the pressure to run the score. As the first part of the score runs, you will be able to follow the leading edge of the opening score around the circle.

Cutting Circles

Circles can be scored freehand or with a circle cutter.

First, score the circle, making sure that you start and stop the score line at the same point.  The direction should be anticlockwise to avoid loosening the locking nut on the length bar.

Turn the glass over onto a piece of corrugated cardboard, or other surface with some give, with the score line face down. With your thumbs, press along the score line until you see the score line "run" progressively and completely around the circle. This prevents the relief scores you are going to make from running through the circle.

Turn the glass back over to the side on which you scored it. Score several lines perpendicular to the circle to the corners of the piece of glass.

Gently open these scores by tapping with the ball of your cutter, or with your hands, pliers, or other tools. The pieces should fall cleanly from the circle leaving you with no rough or jagged edges.

Measuring for size

Cutting small circles

Various methods

Revised 26.4.24