Clumping Kiln Wash

There are some reports of properly prepared kiln wash (1 part powder to 5 parts water by volume) clumping or going onto the shelf or mould unevenly.

My experience is that this happens on shelves that have been kiln washed and fired several times.  The dry kiln wash that has already been fired absorbs the water quickly leaving unevenly applied kiln wash.  The water is absorbed so quickly that it leaves unevenly distributed kiln wash over the existing, already fired kiln wash.

The immediate response of diluting the kiln wash even further leads to a lot of water being absorbed into the shelf leading to longer air-drying times.  It also risks getting insufficient kiln wash over the existing kiln wash. This risks the kiln wash sticking to the fired glass, which is the opposite of the intention of using fresh separator.

When the new kiln wash solution begins to clump, it is time to stop adding more over the top of the old.  It is time to remove the old, clean the shelf and start with a new smooth kiln washed shelf.  It does not take long and gives the satisfaction on knowing the bottom of your pieces will be flat.

Applying new kiln wash repeatedly over old leads to uneven application and clumping of the new.

Consignment Rates

The most common comments about the rates for consignment of pieces to a gallery or gift shop are that they are not fair. They are too high. The gallery is greedy. And so on. How do you judge whether the commission rates are fair?  What are the factors that should be considered?

Time

How much is your time worth?  

Think about the amount of time used to prepare, promote and attend craft fairs, pop up shops, or prepare for and administer online selling. Could you be using that time to make more things, or be with your family?  How much would it improve your quality of life to have to do less selling?

Costs

What are the costs of attending craft fairs?  

    You have to acquire display materials, whether you make or buy them.  You must travel to the event.  You have to be prepared to accept breakage risks from repeated movement of the pieces.  You must pay for the space at the craft fair.

Customer base

Is the shop’s market different than yours at craft fairs or online marketplaces?  

    Shops have a different clientele than craft fairs or online shops.  They spend effort in attracting customers.  They know their clientele and what kind of things will sell to them.  They are aware of the pricing levels needed for their visitors.

Decision

Answering these questions about time, costs and customer base will give you an assessment of whether consignment commission rates being offered are fair. 

Other posts on consignment:

Consignment

Consignment Agreements

Consignment Rates

Consignment Venues

Removing Shelves for Slumping

There are those who advocate removing the kiln shelf(s) before slumping.  The advantages claimed include:

Better heat distribution around mould.  The shelf acts as a heat sink. During the firing the shelf absorbs heat and during the cooling the heat is released, so slowing the cool down. 

Additional height. For kilns with little head room, greater height is provided by this practice.

Observations

My observations on this practice lead me to some questions about the necessity, desirability and in some cases the practicality of it.

Elevation of mould above the shelf

This is a widely recommended practice.  I haven’t found the need, but many people do.  One of the points of this is to allow increased air circulation around the mould and under the bottom.  Another is to let air out from under the bottom of the mould to avoid creating air pockets between the mould and the glass.

If the elevation of the mould allows air circulation, what is the necessity to remove the shelf?  There is air circulation around the bottom of the shelf and of the mould. If the mould is placed on the floor of the kiln, the mould will still need to be raised from the bed of the kiln to allow air circulation under the mould. Of course, if the kiln does not have enough space for the height of the mould, it will be necessary to remove the shelf, but not for circulation purposes.

There is also the fact that the floor of the kiln is most often made of refractory bricks even if the walls and top are of refractory fibre.  This also is a heat sink.  I don’t see the advantage of removing the shelf to avoid a heat sink when the base of the kiln works in holding heat in the same way as the shelf.

Difficulty of removing shelves from some kilns

It is difficult to remove shelves from many kilns.  This can be avoidance of damage to the thermocouple; difficulty of getting fingers around the shelf; weight; size; or even depth of the kiln.  It is impractical to remove the shelves from kilns of this nature.  It is still possible to get a good slump in these kilns.

Uneven cooling of the glass

Research shows long soaks lead to a cooler bottom of the glass than top during the anneal – sometimes greater than the +/- 5°C for adequate annealing.  This is a consequence of the fact that the hot air above the glass is not balanced by the same amount of heat below the glass.  So, there may be good arguments for retaining that heat sink of a shelf under the mould to more evenly balance the cooling of the upper and lower surfaces of the glass during the anneal soak and cool.

Height

I don’t have any argument that when extra height is needed, as removing the shelf will provide some.

Some consideration needs to be given on whether to remove the kiln shelf when slumping.  Research implies that increased cooling of the bottom of the glass may go outside the parameters for the even cooling of the glass.

Creating Flat Bottoms by Hand

No jokes please!

Often the moulds we use do not have a suitably flat bottom to them, making the resulting item wobble when set on a flat surface.  There are several ways to create a flat spot in the mould, reaching in to re-set the glass while firing, putting the glass in at a complimentary angle for a second firing - but they are not always successful.  

Of course, if you have the money you can use a flat lap or a linisher with a back plate to grind a flat spot on these bowls and other unstable pieces.

But,

You can still make a flat spot on your piece without machine tools.  Use a piece of float glass larger than your piece as your grinding base.  Put a slurry of 100 grit sand on the base and put your piece over.  Holding it level, make circular motions with firm downward pressure.  In only a few minutes you will have produced a large enough flat spot to stabilise your piece.

If you do not like the mess of the slurry, fasten a 100-grit sandpaper onto float glass, add water and do the same as you would with a slurry of grit.

Annealing at the Lower End of the Range

Annealing can be done at other than the defined glass transition temperature - also known as the annealing point. Annealing occurs over a range rather than a single magic temperature. Bullseye did not change their glass when they altered the recommended annealing temperature.  Their research has shown that good results are obtained by annealing at the lower end of the range.  

A graph of some aspects of a specific and stiff soda lime glass illustrates this.

Annealing can be between the glass transition (annealing) point and the strain point
credit: Lehigh University

Bullseye's previous annealing temperature was 516C and Spectrum's was/is 510C. These are very close. Bullseye's research is applicable to all soda lime glasses. Therefore, the same principles can be applied to Oceanside fusing compatible glass.  It has already been applied to the Wissmach fusing lines.  This means that you can anneal both glasses at the same temperature.  If you feel the need, you can increase the 482C by 6C to 488 for both, but I don't think it is necessary.

The purpose of the annealing soak is to equalise the temperature within the glass to vary less than 5°C (i.e., +/- 2.5C).  If this is done at the lower end of the annealing range, there is less difficulty of maintaining that small difference throughout the cooling stages. 

When to Open a Cooling Kiln

Credit: Glass House Store

Questions about when it is possible to open the kiln during the cool down to avoid thermal shock get the answer, “it depends….”

These dependent variables include:

Temperature Differentials

Thermal shock is related to how quickly a piece can cool without developing stress that cannot be contained within the piece.  So, when the temperature differential is a few tens of degrees between room and kiln air temperature it is less risky than when the difference is hundreds of degrees.

This means that there is a relation between room temperature and when you can open the kiln safely.  If the room is at sub-zero temperatures, you will need to wait for a lower temperature in the kiln, so the temperature differentials are no greater than when the room is warm.  Remember the glass can be much hotter than the air that the thermocouple measures.

Cooling rate of the kiln

The natural cooling rate of the kiln (that is, in the unpowered state) will affect when you open.  If your kiln cools very slowly from 150°C, you may feel confident to open the kiln a little to speed the cooling from that temperature.  If you kiln cools quickly - usually in smaller kilns - then you need to wait longer for a lower temperature to be achieved.

Size of the piece

The size of the piece(s) relative to the kiln size has a bearing on when it is safe to open the kiln to speed cooling.  The more space the piece takes up in the kiln the cooler the temperature reading needs to be before you open the kiln.

Placing

The placing of the glass has an affect too.  If the glass is at the front of a front opening or top hat kiln, it will cool more quickly and unevenly than one at the back. A large piece placed more to one edge than another will also require lower temperatures before opening.

Thickness

The thickness of the glass also needs consideration.  The thicker the glass, the hotter it will be in relation to the measured air temperature, and so the longer it needs to be left to cool before opening.

Type of kiln

Your kiln may cool slowly or quickly, but the style of the kiln is important too.  The kiln may be brick lined or fibre lined, or a combination.  The greater the mass of the insulation, the earlier you can open, as the dense brick will radiate heat back toward the glass.

If you have a top hat kiln it is probable that you can open earlier than if you have a top opening or front door opening kiln, as they will dump hot air slower than top and front opening kilns.

The venting method

The way you open the kiln to increase the cooling rate is important.  If you open vents, that provides a gentler flow of cooler air than opening the lid or door.  If you open lids or doors, you need to wait for a lower temperature than for opening vents.

And I am sure there are other considerations.  But these are enough to show that there is not a single answer.  The answer is in relation to the kiln and its contents.

Acceptable Cooling Rates

The speed of cooling that a glass can sustain is indicated by charts giving the rate of cooling for the final rate of decrease to room temperature.  Faster rates might be induced by turning the kiln off at 370°C and opening the door/lid at some slightly lower temperature.

This means that you need to know how fast a cooling rate is acceptable.  The bullseye research suggests that 300°C per hour for the final cooling is as fast as you would want to cool a 12mm thick piece.  This is in a closed environment.  Therefore, you will want to be slower – at least half the speed for a partially opened kiln of say 5cm. 

My predictions for acceptable cooling rates are (with a room temperature of 20°C; a piece evenly thick and 30cm square, but less than half the area of the kiln floor; and a top hat kiln):

6mm -   300°C per hour (although I never use more than 200°C per hour)

12mm - 150°C per hour

19mm - 75°C per hour

25mm – 45°C per hour

Note: Tack fused items with these total heights need to have these rates halved, or use the rate suitable for a piece twice the thickest part.

But!

You cannot open the kiln until the natural cooling rate is at the predicted acceptable rate of cooling or less, to be safe.

The natural cooling rate at various temperatures can be determined by observing temperature falls in relation to time intervals between those observations.  You can make a chart to indicate the cooling rate at different temperatures.  The kiln will naturally cool more slowly at lower temperatures. 

Schedule to room temperature

A protection against too rapid cooling is programming to room temperature.  If your kiln is cooling less rapidly than you predict is acceptable, you are using no electricity – OK, maybe a tiny fraction of a kilowatt to keep the controller operating. But there is no worry of using excess electricity.

The point of programming to room temperature is that if the air temperature in the kiln cools faster than predicted, the controller will turn the kiln on.  You will need to be present for a while after venting the kiln to hear if it turns on and you can lower the lid to a point where the kiln does not turn on, indicating the rate of cooling is less than put into the schedule.

An example:

Assume you predict that 150°C per hour is the appropriate rate of cooling from 370°C. Also assume you open the kiln at 100°C and a minute or so later you hear the kiln start.  Then you know that you have opened the kiln too far causing a more rapid cooling than 150°C per hour and you need to close the opening to less than the current state.  This probably will be a progressive thing.  You will come back, say, half an hour later and open a little more.  Everything seems fine, but 10 minutes later you hear the kiln switch on again.  Oops! You opened too much – you need to close the kiln a little.  This may repeat several times.

The real answer to when you can open your cooling kiln is dependent on many variables.  You will have to decide on how critical these are in relation to the piece(s) you have in the kiln.  Once you have decided on the appropriate rate, you should program that into your schedule for the final segment.  This means when you partially or fully open the kiln the controller will switch the kiln on when the cooling rate is faster than you wanted.

Sticking Fiber Paper

People are reporting different behaviours of their thicker fibre papers.  Mainly the difference is that small fibres stick to the glass after a full fuse or kiln carving firing.  There also seems to be a different smell from the burning binders.  This is most likely to be a body soluble refractory fibre paper that is being used.

It seems more suppliers are selling the body soluble versions of fibre paper. It sticks and it gives off a smell of volatile chemicals. I don't like it, but I may have to use it due to the unavailability of that more health risky stuff that worked very well.

There are several ways to minimise the fibres sticking to the glass.  They all relate to adding a separate coating of separator to the fibre paper before firing.  Among the coatings that can be used are kiln wash brushed on or powder dusted over, alumina hydrate, and boron nitride (Zyp is one brand name).  Some cut out Thinfire or Papyros to the shapes required.  (It seems to me that a single sheet of either of these placed over the whole area would do the job, as they turn mostly to dust upon firing).

Others have found that simply soaking in water overnight allows the fibres to be brushed off with stiff brushes.

Body soluble refractory fibre papers tend to stick to the glass at anything over low temperature tack fuses.  This requires an additional layer of separator to be applied over the paper.

It is each person’s choice, of course, but I will continue to attempt to get the older version of fibre paper.

Specific Gravity of Unknown Glass

(warning: lots of arithmetic)

Knowing the specific gravity of a glass can be useful in calculating the required amount of glass needed, e.g., for casting, and screen and pot melts, where a specific volume needs to be filled.

Most soda lime glass – the stuff kilnformers normally use – is known to have a specific gravity of approximately 2.5.  That is, one cubic centimetre of glass weighs 2.5 grams. 

If you have glass that is of unknown composition for your casting, you will need to calculate it.

Calculating the specific gravity of unknown glass.

Specific gravity is defined as the ratio of the weight of a substance to (in the simple case) the weight of water.  This means first weighing the item in grams.  Then you need to find the volume.

Calculating the specific gravity of regularly shaped items

For regularly shaped item this is a matter of measuring length, width and depth in centimetres and multiplying them together. This gives you the volume in cubic centimetres (cc).

As one cubic centimetre of water weighs one gram, these measurements give you equivalence of measurements creating the opportunity to directly calculate weight from volume.

To calculate the specific gravity, divide the weight in grams by the volume in cubic centimetres.

An example:

To find the specific gravity of a piece of glass 30cm square and 6mm thick, multiply 30 x 30 x 0.6 = 540cc.  Next weigh the piece of glass. Say it is 1355 grams, so divide 1355gm by 540cc = s.g. of 2.509, but 2.5 is close enough.

Calculating specific gravity for irregularly shaped objects.

The unknown glass is not always regular in dimensions, so another method is required to find the volume.  You still need to weigh the object in grams.

Then put enough water in a measuring vessel, that is marked in cubic centimetres, to cover the object.  Record the volume of water before putting the glass in.  Place the object into the water and record the new volume.  The difference between the two measurements is the volume of the suibmerged object.  Proceed to divide the weight by the volume as for regularly shaped objects.

Credit: study.com

Application of specific gravity to casting and melts.

To find the amount of glass needed to fill a regularly shaped area to a pre-determined depth, you reverse the formula.  Instead of volume/weight=specific gravity, you multiply the calculated volume of the space by the specific gravity.

The formulas are:

v/w=sg to determine the specific gravity of the glass;

v*sg=w to determine the weight required to fill a volume with the glass.

Where v = volume; w = weight; sg= specific gravity;

You determine the volume or regular shapes by deciding how thick you want the glass to be (in cm) and multiply that by the volume (in cc). 

For rectangles

volume = thickness * length * depth (all in cm)

For circles

Volume = radius * radius *3.14 (ϖ)* thickness (all in cm)

For ovals

Volume = major radius * minor radius * 3.14 (ϖ)* thickness (all in cm)

Once you have the volume you multiply by the specific gravity to get the weight of glass to be added.

Calculating weight for irregularly shaped moulds.

If the volume to be filled is irregular, you need to find another way to determine the volume.  If your mould will hold water without absorbing it, you can fill the mould using the following method.

Wet fill

Fill the measuring vessel marked in cc to a determined level.  Record that measurement.  Then carefully pour water into the mould until it is full.  Record the resulting amount of water. Subtract the new amount from the starting amount and you have the volume in cubic centimetres which can then be plugged into the formula.

Dry fill

If the mould absorbs water or simply won’t contain it, then you need something that is dry.  Using fine glass frit will give an approximation of the volume.  Fill the mould to the height you want it to be.  Carefully pour, or in some other way move the frit, to a finely graduated measuring vessel that gives cc measurements.  Note the volume and multiply by the specific gravity.  Using the weight of the frit will not give you an accurate measurement of the weight required because of all the air between the particles.

An alternative is to use your powdered kiln wash and proceed in the same way as with frit.  Scrape any excess powder off the mould.  Do not compact the powder.  In this case, you must be careful to avoid compacting the powder as you pour it into the measuring vessel.  If you compact it, it will not have the same volume as when it was in the mould.  It will be less, and so you will underestimate the volume and therefore the weight of glass required.

Irregular mould frames

If you have an irregular mould frame such as those used for pot and screen melts that you do not want to completely fill, you need to do an additional calculation.  First measure the height of the frame and record it.  Fill and level the frame with kiln wash or fine frit.  Do not compact it.  Carefully transfer the material to the measuring vessel and record the volume in cc.

Calculate the weight in grams required to fill the mould to the top using the specific gravity.  Determine what thickness you want the glass to be.  Divide that by the total height of the mould frame (all in cm) to give the proportion of the frame you want to fill.  Multiply that fraction times the weight required to fill the whole frame to the top.

E.g. The filled frame would require 2500 gms of glass.  The frame is 2 cm high, but you want the glass to be 0.6 high.  Divide 0.6 by 2 to get 0.3.  Multiply that by 2500 to get 750 grams required.

Regular mould frames

For a regular shaped mould, you can do the whole process by calculations.  Find the volume, multiply by specific gravity to get the weight for a full mould.  Measure the height (in cm) of the mould frame and use that to divide into the desired level of fill (in cm).

E.g. The weight required is volume * specific gravity * final height/ height of the mould.

The maths required is simple once you have the formulae in mind.  All measured in centimetres and cubic centimetres

Essential formulae for calculating the weight of glass required to fill moulds (all measurements in cm.):

Volume of a rectangle = thickness*length*width

Volume of a circle = radius squared (radius*radius) * ϖ (3.14) * thickness

Volume of an oval = long radius * short radius * ϖ (3.14) * thickness

Specific gravity = volume/ weight

Multiple Firings of Kiln Wash

Many people report that they fire multiple times on kiln wash that has not been renewed.  Most add coats over existing kiln wash.  They only remove all the kiln wash when it begins to crack, stick to the glass or gets divots.

We all know that kiln wash fired a second time to full fuse is likely to stick to the glass.  We also know that kiln wash fired to slumping temperatures lasts almost indefinitely.  Somewhere between the two temperatures the kiln wash undergoes a chemical change that makes it more likely to stick to the glass on the next full fuse firing. 

credit: Immerman Glass

Some people continue firing without adding additional layers of kiln wash until cracks, divots, or sticking occurs.  This leads to creating a fix after the failure of the kiln wash. This requires both finding a means of cleaning the kiln wash residue from the glass, and fixing the firing surface.

Others paint a layer of kiln wash on top of the existing separator before high temperature firings. This continues each firing with a fresh layer of kiln wash.  However, the same cracks, divots, and sticking occurs at some point, requiring a complete re-coating of the shelf, and getting the kiln wash off the glass.

credit: Sue McLeod Ceramics

Re-coating of a shelf takes a couple of minutes and can be done with simple tools.  A broad scraper will remove most of the kiln wash.  This can be followed by rubbing with an open weave sanding sheet as used for plaster board or other dry walling.  If you are worried about the dust – which has less risk than fibre papers – you can dampen the surface before beginning the cleaning process.

If the kiln wash has been on the shelf for many firings, it is more difficult to remove, requiring more effort than a single firing.  High temperature firings as for melts also make the kiln wash more difficult to remove. But the same process is used in these cases.

       

Kiln wash in firings at slump and low temperature tack fuses can be reused as many times as it remains smooth and undamaged since the temperature is not high enough to cause the chemical changes.

The ultimate benefit of renewing kiln wash is that not only less effort is required to clean and re-coat, than to fix pieces with kiln wash stuck to them, and also the cost of kiln wash is significantly less than fibre papers.

Removing kiln wash

Applying kiln wash

Including Incompatible Glass

The question on whether incompatible glass can be included in a piece gets a range of positive and negative responses.

The real answer, as indicated by the diversity of responses, depends on where you start, and what assumptions are being made.  However, responses such as "Less than 10% of area is ok" are not helpful because they take no account of the conditions.

Degree of compatibility

How incompatible are the two glasses?  The greater the difference, the less can be used. If you have two test pieces of glass that show a little stress upon viewing with a set of polarised filters, 

you can attempt to combine a greater area than if the test pieces show significant stress.

Mass

The relative mass of the two glasses are important.  Thin Bullseye confetti placed sparingly across an Oceanside glass of 6mm thickness and 300mm diameter will usually survive, although there will be some stress visible through polarising filters.  If you are placing a large or thick piece on the disc, you will have much more trouble.

Placing

The placing of the incompatible glass has an effect too.  The nearer the incompatible glass pieces are to the edge, the more likely a fracture is to develop.

Shapes

The fourth consideration is the shape of both the base and the added incompatible glass.  A circular base can contain more stress than a rectangular one.  An angular incompatible inclusion will show greater stress than a circular one.

With included incompatible glass you are asking the main piece of glass to contain the stresses.  The factors affecting the ability of the base glass to contain the stress are:

The degree of difference in stress between the pieces

the mass of glass applied to the base

the shapes of the base and the inclusions

where the incompatible glass is placed.

These all affect how well the main or base glass can contain the stress.  If the piece is at all important to you, do not include incompatible glass at all.  If it is really important, test all the glass you will be using.

Making Thin Sheets

The question of how to make thin sheets arises from time to time.  Unless you are a glass manufacturer, it is unlikely you can make large, thin glass sheets.  But you can approximate making thin sheets by two methods that I know.

Sintering

One of these is sintering.  This is firing the glass to a low temperature and soaking for a long time.  The common form of this is powder wafers. 

By using a screen to deposit an even layer of glass powder you can make very thin, but delicate sheets of glass.  The procedure I would use is a screen of about 45 – 60 threads per inch.  This is coarse enough to allow the powder through, but not so fine as to “reject” large amounts of the coarser particles. 

You can screen the powder directly onto a kiln washed shelf, or onto Thinfire or Papyros.  You will not be able to move the unfired powder on a sheet of paper or fibre paper without changing the thickness and shape of the screened powder.  It must be laid down onto the separator directly on the shelf.  You can of course, move the shelf to the kiln if you can get in without tipping it.

Method

Support the screen about 3mm above the surface to allow the powder to fall through.

Make a ridge of powder at one end of the screen.  Using a smooth straight edge wide enough to cover the whole of the screen, lightly spread the powder from the starting end to the other. Then repeat drawing the powder to the starting end.  Make about five repeats of this – that is 10 passes, to get enough powder laid down to form about 0.5 to 1mm sheet.  You will need to experiment with the number of passes to get what you want.

Do not try to press the powder through the screen.  That will only wear the screen out quickly and may tear it.  Each pass should be a light spreading of the powder.  It is heavy enough to fall through the screen without additional force.

You could, of course, just sift the powder over the area you want to cover and judge by eye how even the layer is.  It is possible that your observation is good enough, but it is more likely that you will have thick and thin areas.  Often even at sintering temperatures, the thin is pulled toward the thicker, leaving small or large holes.   By screening the powder, you know you will have an even layer

Firing

The kind of schedule to use to sinter the glass particles together without changing their structure is the following:

220°C to 482°C , soak for 60 mins
55°C to 593°C, 10 minutes
28°C to 665°C for 5 mins
as fast as possible to 482°C for 30 mins
28°C to 427°C, no soak
55°C to 370°C, no soak
110°C to 50°C, no soak

This will work for most fusing glasses.

This slow firing allows enough heat to penetrate the glass grains that they will stick together without changing shape or developing holes.  I admit the anneal cool is very cautious.  You can experiment with quicker cools if you want to speed the process.

  

Pressing

This is a technique of thinning already existing sheets of glass.  Typically, you will have a 6mm or thicker piece of glass that you want to be 3mm or less.  Paul Tarlow has described this kiln pressed glass very well in his books and on the fusedglass.org site.

In essence, you use a pair of kiln shelves.  Kiln wash both shelves.  Place the glass to be thinned on one shelf.  At the outer edges of the shelf put down spacers of the thickness you want the glass to be after pressing.  This will keep the upper shelf from settling down too much and more importantly unevenly.  Place the other shelf, kiln washed side down, on top of the glass.  Be sure the spacers are in places where they can support the upper shelf.

If you are thinning from 6mm to 3mm, normally you do not need any additional weight on top of the upper shelf.  But the thinner you want the glass to be, the greater the weight needs to be.  It could be another shelf, fire bricks or steel weights.

When scheduling the annealing remember you must take account of the mass of the weight on top of the glass.  You will need a much longer temperature equalisation soak and a much slower annealing cool.  

Further information is available in the ebook Low Temperature Kiln Forming.

Keeping Bottles from Rolling

A common problem in firing bottles is that they may roll into one another and stick, making both bottles useless.

One way to overcome this is to let the bottle find its heavy point by setting on smooth and level surface. It will gently roll to one direction before slowly coming back in the other. When it stops this oscillation, the heaviest part of the bottle will be on the bottom.  Mark the bottle in some way so you can move to the kiln in that position. If after this, it rolls in the kiln, then your shelf is not level. 

Additional assurance against rolling is putting a small piece of thin fibre paper (1 or 2 mm)at each side of the point the bottle touches the shelf.  Thinfire and Papyros are not enough to ensure there will be no movement. But the small bumps of fibre paper are enough to stop the bottle from rolling.

Sometimes you want a particular part of the bottle up or down, but it won’t stay in place.  Then you need to put a slightly thicker piece of fiber paper against the bottle on each side.  It is better if it is not Thinfire or Papyros as they tend to disintegrate above 400C, long before the bottle begins to distort enough to keep it in place.

Other materials you can use to prevent the bottle from rolling are crumbled chalk, whiting, kiln wash, or even a few grains of sand.

Preventing bottles from rolling in the kiln is about finding the natural heavy spot, or propping the bottle in place with a variety of heat resistant materials.